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About why it takes so long on Earth to be born again

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I received an email asking this question, and noting that in the Spirit World Helen did this inside a year. This was my answer:

There are several issues:
  • How old you are when you start to get real about soul transformation
  • What society you were brought up in
  • What your family and family life was like
  • Influences outside the family in ones early years
Next an explanation as to why it’s easier in the spirit heavens to progress. Fundamentally it’s because of the way the heavens work. When you reach the third, you are only amongst people at that level and walking the same path. This is an awesome support group with good enough examples of being loving all the time. This is even more pronounced in the Fifth and Seventh.

Next you have available Celestial guides and your communication with them is perfect. You can identify what you need to change plus how best to do that.

Come back to Earth now. We have major issues identifying unloving behaviour that is entrenched from our early years. For myself I was subject to bullying both at home and at school and later boarding school. There are four ways to react to that aggression. Flight, Freeze, or Fawn. I have an absolutely automatic fight response. It has caused me significant health issues all related to my spirit body and physical body holding these negative energies. I am absolutely committed to change, and slowly I am but it’s very very hard to change ingrained behaviour.

Now at least I have committed to change anything and every thing that stands between me and my goal. Many people just refuse at a subconscious level. There are some long term Divine Love followers of 30 and 40 years who are basically not growing because they don’t want to change. To those people they like who they are. Now this can include dietary habits too because you have to have a healthy body. They have free will so nothing will circumvent that choice. Even Celestial Guides (especially Celestial Guides!) will not push these free will boundaries.

Now the later in life you start, and I started at 55, you have 55 years of error (compensation) to deal with before you even move forward. You have to revisit all the stuff ups you made and make peace with anyone who was involved. Not necessarily face to face but certainly within.

I hope that helps

By the way I think it’s possible to get a heck of a long way - like maybe the top of the fifth - in say 8 to 10 years. I wasted 10 years because oldtimers believed that you don’t need to actually do anything except pray. There are many that still believe that. It's not untrue longterm except it does mean you have limited your soul growth while on this planet. No doubt in the Spirit Heavens these things are easier to deal with.

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Geoff

I could also have explained that this is because we are in 3D, and when we move to 5D, which is expected perhaps over the next 100 years,it all changes. Because everyone on Earth will be loving.
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Hi Geoff,

You cover some good points here. Since very few come to this forum, can we publish your reflections in a future newsletter?

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Sure

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OK, great. It won't be till in the new year, and if I make any edits, I'll run it past you before publishing.
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Wonderful description, Geoff.

I enjoyed your explanation of the details involved, and thank you for sharing your personal experiences. Of course I especially liked the example of Helen's progress to the Celestial Heavens in just over a year! It fully demonstrates your point of being able to proceed quicker in the spirit world.

Yes, there are many variables to spiritual progress here on Earth. I did find that the messages from Jesus as received by Al in this past year are extremely instructive. Particularly, Lesson 6: The Soul in his book "Our World In Transition, Messages from Jesus."

In fact, this book resonates deeply with me, even as much as the Padgett Messages and the Judas Messages.

We have all the instructive information, now we need to put it in practice with prayer for our Creator's Love, healthy living, and love towards all His Creations.

Love and hugs, dear friend
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Geoff wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:26 pm ... I wasted 10 years because oldtimers believed that you don’t need to actually do anything except pray. There are many that still believe that.
I like what the integral folks (e.g. Ken Wilber) are saying that we need to wake up, grow up, clean up, and show up. For me, that's awaken our soul (wake up), discipline our minds (grow up), heal our hearts (expiation/clean up), and then live Divine Love/serve others (show up).

Prayer seems pretty critical in the wake up and clean up aspects, but not so much the grow up ... or so it seems to me.

Beth
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